Kilmer Creek E-BigSale 4' Natural Cedar Porch Swing, Amish Crafted - Includes Chain & Springs

We love the swing; it is very comfortable and the springs are a great idea! The only issue I had with the swing was: when I got it, the instructions said (and I DEFINITELY agree) you must coat it with something like Polyurethane because the wood is 'natural' with no protective coating on it. So, if you don't protect the wood from moisture (and the moisture freezing in the winter) . . the constant freezing and expansion due to freezing will breakdown the unprotected wood, likely in two years. So, you must coat the swing; I coated it with Polyurethane, like the instructions say. The seating surface is sanded well; BUT, in between the boards, it is not sanded. So, in order to do an adequate job of sealing the wood with Poly, you must disassemble the entire swing . . i.e. take the swing completely apart and sand as required. Removing the screws requires a 'square' drive screwdriver (meaning the hole in the screw is a recessed square); which most people don't have. I have a powered square drive screwdriver; but, most people will not. So, be advised, if you want this great swing to last more than two years, you must protect the bare wood and the only way to do that right is to disassemble the swing, sand as required, and put two coats of Polyurethane on it. You can get everything you need to do this at Ace, Home Depot or Lowes. Unfortunately, the 'square' screwdrivers come in different square dimensions and I think the correct size is Dewalt #2, but, you may have to buy that size and one larger and one smaller to make sure you have the right square size (when you are finished, take back the ones you did not use). If you do take the swing apart, mark the boards and mark where they do, so you can put it back together correctly.

A very high quality swing. Packaging was excellent. Probably the best I have ever seen for a large fairly heavy package. Wood quality and quality of construction is also excellent. A couple of rough spots on the bottom but you could light sand them out if you wanted to. The holes are precisely drilled and I would recommend running a bolt in and out a couple of times to loosen them up before you start assembling.Now the bad. Well it really isn't bad. I always check the hardware against the list on the instructions. I had one extra bolt and two that were longer than the instructions said. The long ones were for attaching the back to the bottom on the ends where you had to go through three pieces of wood but the instructions don't show that.The only problem I had was the two six foot pieces of chain were attached to the eye bolts and the two three foot pieces were loose. Just the opposite of what it should be. The S hooks are stout and I had to take them into the garage and use a ball peen hammer and a cold chisel to open them up enough so I could switch the chains. This might be a show stopper for some. I also had one nut with no threads so I had to dig into my coffee can of loose nuts and bolts to find a replacement.Overall a very high quality product that may out last me. Just check your hardware before you get too far into it to avoid frustration.

Not sure what's going on with the folks that gave this 1 star. It's a stellar deal for what you pay.It took right at 1 hour to unbox, read the instructions, verify the parts list, and put it together.The bad:1) yeah, the instructions are too brief. Looks like they wanted all the instructions to fit on 1 page. You'll want to read carefully and slowly. They also don't tell you (duh!) things like, "repeat steps 1 - 3 for the other side", but you can figure that out.2) you need to know some basic construction like the difference between 1/2" and 7/16" as well as 1/4" and 5/16", but that's about as hard as it gets.3) one of the arm-rest holes wasn't quite large enough. I could have pulled out the drill, but I was able to thread the bolt through the wood without issue.The good:1) Not nearly as many pieces to put together as I thought after reading some of the reviews. There's just 4 wood sections. The seat, back, and 2 arm-rests are already put together for you. (Comes in a larger box than I expected too. It'll be good for grass-sledding this summer.)2) looks great...but it does need to be stained before you put it outside.3) comfortable4) great value

Very sturdy and Comfortable Easy to install

When the swing came, I opened the box and saw that the back support had a crack in one of the support boards. I notified the manufacturer and the next day got an email from Mr Kilmer, the owner. I had uploaded photos showing the damage in the box. Fortunately, I had opened the box to the side where the damage was so I showed the photo with the swing still in the box. He said, correctly I believe, that this was shipment damage by the negligent people at UPS. There was a hole in the box that appeared to be from these people throwing the box, which they always do! I wish there was some way to hold them accountable.Anyway, Mr Kilmer said he was shipping out an entire back support assembly, instead of the one broken piece. It came undamaged and I assembled it without any problem. I painted it with 2 applications of tung oil and citrus solvent. It now looks more like mahogany than red cedar. It's a gorgeous swing and a joy to sit on. I uploaded the photos showing the damage and the swing as it now appears in my arbor. The tung oil is supposed to get into the wood, unlike the minwax varnish which coats the wood and consequently the cedar turns grey in a couple years. I expect to enjoy it for years to come.UPDATE: It doesn't appear you can upload pictures and I don't know how to insert a link to see them.